Zimbabwe: Tsvangirai - Mugabe 'A Human Being After All'
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Zimbabwe Independent (Harare)
29 August 2008
Posted to the web 29 August 2008
Heidi Holland
Harare
ZIMBABWE'S opposition leader and President Robert Mugabe set aside years of bitter rivalry and talked like a father and son when they met for a private dinner last month.
Morgan Tsvangirai, who has repeatedly suffered arrest and assault at the hands of Mugabe's regime, described how the tension disappeared during their first one-on-one meeting following the signing of a memorandum of understanding to negotiate a power-sharing deal between Zanu PF and the two MDC formations on July21.
"A passer-by might have mistaken it for a lost father-son reunion," said Tsvangirai. "Initially, there was tension between us but as we chatted about this and that and became more relaxed, I discovered that he was a human being after all."
This private dinner, details of which have never previously been disclosed, followed the public handshake between Tsvangirai and Mugabe in Harare.
Only weeks earlier, scores of opposition supporters had been murdered and thousands assaulted or tortured during a bloody presidential election campaign.
But in an exclusive interview, Tsvangirai said these traumatic events did not come between him and the 84-year-old president.
"We chatted about family, about my mother, as well as about politics and the talks. Mugabe ate a lot and knew exactly what he wanted. He is very alert mentally but, physically, the age is telling."
Tsvangirai said it would be "unfair" to reveal the political details of 90-minute dinner with Mugabe. But he said the ageing leader was concerned about his place in history and genuinely worried about Britain's alleged plots to oust him –– a constant feature of his speeches.
"I got the impression that he has a deep commitment to his legacy. I realised that he actually believes a lot of what he is saying; it's not all said just for propaganda purposes. He is paranoid about the British. I think overall he wants to prove to them that he is right," said Tsvangirai.
As for the British government, Tsvangirai discovered that Mugabe views (prime minister) Gordon Brown as an even more dedicated opponent than Tony Blair. "I said, 'Why don't you talk to them?' And he said, 'Well, you know, Blair was bad enough but this Brown, he is even worse'."
Mugabe's regime has been responsible for thousands of deaths since he won power 28 years ago. But the old leader appeared genuinely pained about how he is portrayed.
"At one point Mugabe told me, 'You know, some people say I'm a murderer. But I'm not. Let the two of us carry on eating together and showing that we can go forward in peace'," said Tsvangirai.
But Mugabe seemed to have blanked out the violence which scarred the presidential election campaign and was firmly in denial about his own responsibility.
"It felt like a remarkably normal conversation most of the time, apart from his denial of the violence in Zimbabwe," said Tsvangirai. "He seemed to be unaware or he feigned ignorance of the atrocities committed by his own people.
"I wondered if he was suppressing knowledge of something he was not comfortable with. Right up to the end of the dinner, I kept coming back to the issue of violence and he kept denying any knowledge of it."
Only a week after this meeting, however, Mugabe gave a very different message. During the annual ceremony remembering the dead of the war against white rule, Mugabe said: "We used violence to defend what is ours."
Tsvangirai remains puzzled by the president's capacity for double-think and denial.
"I left the hotel wondering why Mugabe is so violent. Why does he resort to violence whenever he is cornered? Being in his company, I couldn't imagine where the violent streak was: I think he suppresses it, even to himself. Or is it the people around him? He doesn't seem as bad when you're with him, but I know he was trying to manipulate me that night."
Despite this friendly meeting, Tsvangirai later refused to sign a power-sharing deal that would have left Mugabe in command of Zimbabwe's government. But he said he felt "no sense of bitterness," adding: "I actually have to admit that I have some respect for Mugabe, who used to be my hero."
Heidi Holland is the author of Dinner with Mugabe, published by Penguin Books.
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Calling you own brother a monster; what type of a human beign are you? Remember the proverb which says; Green is Green, but when it's added with another colour it changes. We "African" have to seriously and closely look into what changes Mogabe before we start calling him all type of outrageous name. First of all, he is a president of a sovereing country; one of the most respected ones in Africa. So, my dear African; please refrain of calling yourself an ignorant individual.
From Your Brother in the name of Christ and Allah
I think you'll find Mugabe WAS one of the most respected leaders in Africa, now he's a disgrace to Africa and also his own people who has happily raped and murdered to keep power. As for him being President of a sovereign country, why do you support condone such a man that has had to beat and murder your brothers and sisters to keep this position? Why do you allow such a precident to be set that shows other African leaders that its ok to beat and murder their own people to force people to vote for them if they… [Read Full Text]
My dumbass "brother" you're an idiot!
My dumbass "brother" you're an idiot!Have you attended school, 1000% inflation in Zimbabwe!!!!How do u expect people to live stupid and you're saying this in God's name....double stupid for u.
prem
I understand how and why you can see the splinter in Mr. Mugabe's toe but can't see the log in your own eye. Your apparent hatred for Mugabe stem from your desire and need to have some sort of control over darker skinned people. The orginal people of this country reffered to your kind as the enemy of the earth. Also you need to acknowledge when you use the word Human (hue + Man)in reference to the civility of a man that is a reference to people of color. Contrary to the cave men who are your ancestors that… [Read Full Text]
Dear foryohjonathan0000 and Adams,
While I understand your state of mind, I am unable to reconcile the fact that Mugabe terrorised millions of innocent citizens to seek reguge in neighbouring countries. For the very fact that he has not expressed regret and remorse for the widespread suffering of his subjects, yes! I can venture to say that he acts like a monster. He has never shown any pity. A monster shows no pity even in front of sufferings!
I can relate another eye-revealing incident in Benin, West Africa. President Kerekou had granted a sort of truth & reconciliation commission known… [Read Full Text]
"Dear foryohjonathan0000 and Adams, While I understand your state of mind, I am unable to reconcile the fact that Mugabe terrorised millions of innocent citizens to seek reguge in neighbouring countries"
Prem, It's a bit amusing that poster #1 would conclude that you are an African. Perhaps the poster is new to the board and has not being reading your hysterical anti-Mugabe posts filled with all the name-calling, distortions and out-right lies that you have been making over the last several weeks. If you are an African you are about the most white-washed African that I've seen in a very… [Read Full Text]
AMEN MUKURU mwanawewe!!! You are on the right track.
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Mugabe is a genuine monster in the form of a human devil!
Tsvangirai is right to point out he was impressed with Mugabe. Monsters have the ability to effectively hide their real bestial feelings and show compassion when that suits them.
I have also had a personal experience in the company of Emperor Bokassa of Central African Repiblic. I spent a whole day with hiw compared to only 90 minutes of Tsvangirai. Bokassa was very fatherly and paid much attention to the welfare of his guests during a trip on his personal boat along the Congo river.
But he was… [Read Full Text]